We need a final decision on this shit.

Just a little.

None of this matters anymore because the submissions are now changed to the UFC style. Where you have to hover over it and it's a game of cat and mouse. I get where you're coming from as far as WWE2K15 is concerned. Submissions are still a huge part of wrestling and as much as it sucks for your guy to personally get dismantled by one. I'll have to say live to fight another day. A submission finisher would be more likely than a random submission towards the end of the match. 2K16 is bringing new defense and offense, then we'll sort out the rules and what not. Thanks for bringing it up anyways, even if it's a silly topic you're at least speaking up and letting us make the show better.