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Post by KinZil Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:13 pm

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Post by Solaris Arc Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:48 pm

Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

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Post by KinZil Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:51 pm

Supasoap101 wrote:Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

I wish Strowman could do what he does on live shows every night in his RAW matches (kip ups, drop kicks, top rope splashes etc.)

As far as the Cruiserweights go, they should've brought Brian Kendrick out.

Because Brian Kendrick makes EVERYTHING better.
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Post by Solaris Arc Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:56 pm

Emp. wrote:
Supasoap101 wrote:Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

I wish Strowman could do what he does on live shows every night in his RAW matches (kip ups, drop kicks, top rope splashes etc.)

As far as the Cruiserweights go, they should've brought Brian Kendrick out.

Because Brian Kendrick makes EVERYTHING better.

Honestly yeah, Kendrick deserves better.

I love Heel Neville but I'd like to see a new Champion soon. Honestly, Neville should be going after a higher card Title once he drops the CW Belt.

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Post by KinZil Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:00 am

Supasoap101 wrote:
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Supasoap101 wrote:Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

I wish Strowman could do what he does on live shows every night in his RAW matches (kip ups, drop kicks, top rope splashes etc.)

As far as the Cruiserweights go, they should've brought Brian Kendrick out.

Because Brian Kendrick makes EVERYTHING better.

Honestly yeah, Kendrick deserves better.

I love Heel Neville but I'd like to see a new Champion soon. Honestly, Neville should be going after a higher card Title once he drops the CW Belt.

Neville AND Aries, imo. I think that they could both make for really good Intercontinental Champions. Neville could possibly WWE Champion if they know how to book it right.
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Post by Topher Mod Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:48 am

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Post by Topher Mod Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:49 pm

Lets hope Hornswoggle wasn't under the ring

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Post by Austin Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:18 pm

Emp. wrote:
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Emp. wrote:
Supasoap101 wrote:Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

I wish Strowman could do what he does on live shows every night in his RAW matches (kip ups, drop kicks, top rope splashes etc.)

As far as the Cruiserweights go, they should've brought Brian Kendrick out.

Because Brian Kendrick makes EVERYTHING better.

Honestly yeah, Kendrick deserves better.

I love Heel Neville but I'd like to see a new Champion soon. Honestly, Neville should be going after a higher card Title once he drops the CW Belt.

Neville AND Aries, imo. I think that they could both make for really good Intercontinental Champions. Neville could possibly WWE Champion if they know how to book it right.
I don't necessarily think it's the right move yet. With Neville and Aries getting over, keeping them in the Cruiserweight Division is going to continue to elevate and establish it. Once Tozawa (my guy), Gallagher, Gulak, Perkins etc. start getting there, definitely.

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Post by Solaris Arc Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Ausy wrote:
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Supasoap101 wrote:
Emp. wrote:
Supasoap101 wrote:Two big guys getting cheered while the Cruiserweight and Tag matches are pure silence.

What a time to be alive, Maggle.

I wish Strowman could do what he does on live shows every night in his RAW matches (kip ups, drop kicks, top rope splashes etc.)

As far as the Cruiserweights go, they should've brought Brian Kendrick out.

Because Brian Kendrick makes EVERYTHING better.

Honestly yeah, Kendrick deserves better.

I love Heel Neville but I'd like to see a new Champion soon. Honestly, Neville should be going after a higher card Title once he drops the CW Belt.

Neville AND Aries, imo. I think that they could both make for really good Intercontinental Champions. Neville could possibly WWE Champion if they know how to book it right.
I don't necessarily think it's the right move yet. With Neville and Aries getting over, keeping them in the Cruiserweight Division is going to continue to elevate and establish it. Once Tozawa (my guy), Gallagher, Gulak, Perkins etc. start getting there, definitely.

I certainly agree. But I think the one thing keeping the CW's down for this moment is how they are treating it. The WWE doesn't see the CWD as a group that can compete with the rest of the card, they see them as a supplementary show.

They try to make it feel important by using a different set of ropes and set, instead of just making it important through the talent and storylines.

Until they show the Cruiserweights as something more than a sideshow, there will not be much improvement.

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Post by Austin Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:37 pm

Supasoap101 wrote:I certainly agree. But I think the one thing keeping the CW's down for this moment is how they are treating it. The WWE doesn't see the CWD as a group that can compete with the rest of the card, they see them as a supplementary show.

They try to make it feel important by using a different set of ropes and set, instead of just making it important through the talent and storylines.

Until they show the Cruiserweights as something more than a sideshow, there will not be much improvement.
I agree with you there. They need to better integrate it into Raw. It feels like when they had that NXT match on Raw way way back and it felt like a cheap advertisement for the show, not quite on par and out of place.

It's a positive sign having the crowd start to react to guys like Gallagher and Tozawa, the props/call and response is working well for them. Even TJP is starting to get a heel reaction. But then you have guys like Gran Metalik/Lince Dorado/The Bollywood Boyz where it's just like, "....okay, literal jobbers." Not to say they aren't talented in their own right, but you are on the money with the sideshow description.

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